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Skrivet den 2006-08-03 15:21:12
Experiment-626
lets all for for some ice cream :)
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Skrivet den 2006-08-03 15:32:19
jules.roxette
BibFortuna skrev:
I'd like to tell the politically-correct wankers to bog off and don't read this topic if they don't like it, because everybody is entitled to an opinion and surprise, the plot isn't really going to happen.

Besides:
China -> communists
South America -> dictators
Islam -> terrorists, women-unfriendly retard culture, hatred against the free west (I guess the list is too long for this one)

nothing untrue there!


exactly. there's nothing untrue here. it's all fact.

i'm sick of people being/trying to be all politically correct. you can't deny what's happening in the world just because you might "offend someone". people are allowed to have opinions. isn't that the point of a discussion anyway??
all you flauw "you-can't-say-that" people realllly irritate me beyond words.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-03 15:32:53
Jojoboo
jules.roxette skrev:
BibFortuna skrev:
I'd like to tell the politically-correct wankers to bog off and don't read this topic if they don't like it, because everybody is entitled to an opinion and surprise, the plot isn't really going to happen.

Besides:
China -> communists
South America -> dictators
Islam -> terrorists, women-unfriendly retard culture, hatred against the free west (I guess the list is too long for this one)

nothing untrue there!


exactly. there's nothing untrue here. it's all fact.

i'm sick of people being/trying to be all politically correct. you can't deny what's happening in the world just because you might "offend someone". people are allowed to have opinions. isn't that the point of a discussion anyway??
all you flauw "you-can't-say-that" people realllly irritate me beyond words.


I'm sick of people who judge everyone out of a few.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-03 16:12:14
jules.roxette
everyone falls victim to generalisation at some point. it's just the way things are. true it's unfair to the people that aren't part of the faulting majority, but it might take a while to name each and every particular person. and in any case, i couldnt care less.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-03 16:39:28
Experiment-626
hey have u guys saw that september-12-2006 prophecy ? Its creepy ! Its the start of nuclear war which will signify the wipe-out of the human race.

Be it real or just another fiction or guessworks.. well lets assume its real.. name some of the things that you want to do before the world end. Okay i'll start with my list :
* to have a GF
* to play more counterstrike and half-life-2 deathmatch
* to surf in hawaii and california
* to visit new zealand / australia / africa / amazon , and to interact / befriend maoris / aboriginees / tribesman
* to visit galapagos / mexico / hongkong / shanghai / tibet / mongolia / norway / sweden
* to eat many many many many many ice cream
* to try hang-gliding / hot air baloons / sailing / windsurfing
* to have a pet kitten
* to own a space ship so i can go from one place to another in a matter of minutes
* to visit all the homeless , amuse them, and give them their last meal
* go visit Area-51 where my grandparent's UFO crashed
* to re write the bible
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Skrivet den 2006-08-03 18:01:25
jules.roxette
i would just want to marry the one i love.
but i don't think that's gonna happen.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-03 21:15:04
BibFortuna
the point is it isn't a few, it's a helluva lot more....but your kind is probably selective deaf and blind for that. Just like you probably think the term 'racism' only counts when it's hatred coming from a white person towards another ethnicity, but not the other way around. *yawn*
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Skrivet den 2006-08-03 22:16:15
Jojoboo
BibFortuna skrev:
the point is it isn't a few, it's a helluva lot more....but your kind is probably selective deaf and blind for that. Just like you probably think the term 'racism' only counts when it's hatred coming from a white person towards another ethnicity, but not the other way around. *yawn*


No, but don't judge EVERYONE out of the failing ones.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 02:26:26
Ertai
She isn't judging everyone!!!

she says, for instance,
Citat:
Islam -> terrorists, women-unfriendly retard culture, hatred against the free west (I guess the list is too long for this one)
Is she judging people here? No, she's not, she's judging a culture. The islamic culture IS woman-unfriendly. The islamic culture IS spreading hate against the free west. And you must agree, that most terrorist are - indeed - muslims. Of course, that doesn't mean that most muslims are terrorists, but you must agree that the islamic culture is much more violent than most other cultures. Just look at the way muslims react to certain situations like - I hate bringing it up again - the muhamed cartoons. If any muslim would've drawn such pictures of Jesus, Buddha, Shiva, or whatever, not a single flag or ambassade would've burned.

You can't judge everyone out of the failing ones, but you are afraid of insulting people, so you judge no-one.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 08:16:10
Europoprocks
Hatred breeds hatred.

Contempt breeds contempt.

Hypocrisy is prevalent.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 09:17:38
Cygnus
dAcampora skrev:
try to visit here... and you'll see that you can't generalize.

dAcampora skrev:
in the matter of fact the only thing i hate.. is why the "civilized" people of USA vote for a president with an I.Q. of an ape

But not all of us voted for him. I sure didn't. Stop generalizing, you evil racist!

dAcampora skrev:
don't forget that the u.s.a. wanna take over the amazonia to destroy all like they did with they're own forests

Do you draw a distinction between American businesses and American government? Obviously not. You must be of the commie persuasion. Let me put it in terms you might better understand: you can destroy anything you want so long as you purchased it, and thus obtained ownership of it.

dAcampora skrev:
i don't hate you americans like you guys hate us..

(Most) Americans don't hate you. They just don't care that you exist. They're indifferent towards you. There's a difference between hate and indifference. A BIG difference. I don't see why the rest of the world requires that people in the U.S. give a crap about them. Truth is, Americans don't give a crap. Really, they don't. And I doubt they'd hate you even if they did care. Don't flatter yourselves.

PuNkRoCkEr4 skrev:
I still demand an apology immediately

Really? Nobody cares.

Swede20 skrev:
how about we wipe out the people on here who are bashing other countries. maybe we wouldnt have the problems that we do then today.

Yes, and maybe if everyone were passive and accepted the behavior of every country, regardless of how evil and brutal it is, we wouldn't have the problems we have today. Nope, we'd all be dead and at peace. How's that for problem-solving, eh?

So you see, I can't stress how important judging is--not just when it comes to foreign countries, but in everyday life. Those of you who are afraid to do it are moral cowards as far as I'm concerned.

Jojoboo skrev:
Except for the fact that you judge everyone out of a few? So every chinese is a communist? Every southamerican is a dictator? Every muslim is a west- and womanhating terrorist? Every single one? No. Exactly.

I believe the folks who made those comments you're so vehemently arguing against intended to denounce the governments of those countries, NOT the people who live there. Notice how it was said that China is communist--which is true--not that "the chinese people are communist." Notice how the governments of several middle-eastern countries enables the abuse and killing of women through law (or lack thereof), although there are citizens living in the country that do not abuse women. Draw the distinction.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 09:45:42
Jojoboo
Cygnus: Oh, don't even bother. I haven't said "Americans are so...", have I? I don't care if the politically correct-haters are american or if they're chinese or whatever, because nationality doesn't matter. At all.

And to those who said "Wipe out all of.. bla bla bla", there are more people in those countries than just the government. I don't care about the governments in these countries - there I agree with you totally - but it's the civilians in those countries who suffer the most from the governments ideas, not you who demand that they're all wiped out on a safe distance from there.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 10:08:31
Cygnus
Citat:
Cygnus: Oh, don't even bother. I haven't said "Americans are so...", have I? I don't care if the politically correct-haters are american or if they're chinese or whatever, because nationality doesn't matter. At all.

I didn't say you said that. I just said that you were part of an argument that included generalizations about Americans. If you, specifically, don't agree with those generalizations, then I apologize for including that; I didn't intend for it to seem that I was putting words in your mouth. I'll remove that last sentence I said immediately.

Again, I'm sorry if I misrepresented your actual attitude on the subject or promoted any inaccuracy.

Citat:
And to those who said "Wipe out all of.. bla bla bla", there are more people in those countries than just the government. I don't care about the governments in these countries - there I agree with you totally - but it's the civilians in those countries who suffer the most from the governments ideas, not you who demand that they're all wiped out on a safe distance from there.

But what happens when the government uses its citizens as shields against those who oppose them, as has been happening lately? What happens when an evil government purposefully puts the citizens in the line of fire so that other countries will think twice before fighting back when they've been attacked by said government? What then? Or worse, what if those who attack are actually citizens of the country, and not part of the government? Should their government be punished for not controlling them, or should those citizens be punished, or both? And while we're sitting here contemplating this, are we putting our own selves in danger, trying to consider the safety of a country's private citizens when they don't have the courtesy to do the same for us?
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 10:29:47
Jojoboo
Hmm, that's a thoughtful comment. It depends, doesn't it? If the government uses it's citizens as shields to save their own sorry skin, that should be dealt with in an approporiate way. I admit that I don't know HOW you would deal with that, but it's definitely not by coming with racist jokes on a forum.

If the citizens are the culprits, here, then they're not really innocents anymore, are they? Face the ones that are hostile and protect the ones that are not, I say. I know this argument is full of holes, but okay, I'm an idealistic, politically correct bitch.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 11:49:08
jules.roxette
BibFortuna skrev:
Just like you probably think the term 'racism' only counts when it's hatred coming from a white person towards another ethnicity, but not the other way around. *yawn*


WOW so true.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 12:30:50
BibFortuna
Let's hope that piece of work of Cuba dies soon, that will be a good riddance.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 16:10:52
Experiment-626
Jojoboo skrev:
Hmm, that's a thoughtful comment. It depends, doesn't it? If the government uses it's citizens as shields to save their own sorry skin, that should be dealt with in an approporiate way. I admit that I don't know HOW you would deal with that, but it's definitely not by coming with racist jokes on a forum.

If the citizens are the culprits, here, then they're not really innocents anymore, are they? Face the ones that are hostile and protect the ones that are not, I say. I know this argument is full of holes, but okay, I'm an idealistic, politically correct bitch.



Jojoboo... u rcoks :) you're way too smart for a typical 14 year old , u know :)
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 17:22:28
dAcampora
BibFortuna skrev:
I'd like to tell the politically-correct wankers to bog off and don't read this topic if they don't like it, because everybody is entitled to an opinion and surprise, the plot isn't really going to happen.

Besides:
China -> communists
South America -> dictators
Islam -> terrorists, women-unfriendly retard culture, hatred against the free west (I guess the list is too long for this one)

nothing untrue there!


south america dictators?
only one country in south america has a dictator and its Venezuela
and evo morales of bolivia might became one.. but he's too ignorant to do something like that

the thruth is, i don't give a fuck with what they do with their own country, both of them are so pathetic and small that they can't do no harm
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 17:29:56
dAcampora
dAcampora skrev:
i don't hate you americans like you guys hate us..

(Most) Americans don't hate you. They just don't care that you exist. They're indifferent towards you. There's a difference between hate and indifference. A BIG difference. I don't see why the rest of the world requires that people in the U.S. give a crap about them. Truth is, Americans don't give a crap. Really, they don't. And I doubt they'd hate you even if they did care. Don't flatter yourselves.



haha.. you guys were talking about vanishing with all south america
and that isn't a sign of hate?
and i don't give a fuck if you like us or not... i'm just saying that we don't keep saying "oh, let's explode that country they're evil"

*sorry for my english, i know it sucks but i'm still learning
*and i don't want to seem rude
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 19:28:47
ACCOUNTCLOSED
LOL omg this is aaaaaaaaaaaaall hilarious... stop fighting over something that'll go on forever... I might as well bake a cake!
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Skrivet den 2006-08-04 19:43:50
Jojoboo
Ninanajna skrev:
LOL omg this is aaaaaaaaaaaaall hilarious... stop fighting over something that'll go on forever... I might as well bake a cake!


Do so. Hope it tastes nice. :3

Wouldn't it be great if everyone were indifferent to everything?
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Skrivet den 2006-08-05 02:55:01
Experiment-626
i dig Tiramisu :) or any cake thats not so sweet... i hate extremely sweet cakes.. it makes my throat speak in tongue
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Skrivet den 2006-08-05 03:34:40
Cygnus
Jojoboo skrev:
Wouldn't it be great if everyone were indifferent to everything?

Eh, not really. If that were so, we'd never get anything done. Like inventing stuff, and falling in love, and predicting the weather, etc....Unless you mean indifferent only to bad things; then it's just suicidal. Unless you mean that people just shouldn't care to do bad things; then, yeah, I guess that'd be pretty good.

dAcampora skrev:

haha.. you guys were talking about vanishing with all south america
and that isn't a sign of hate?

Huh? I don't get what you mean at all. If what you mean is that Americans want South America to vanish, then what kind of media have you been getting your information from? It certainly isn't the American media. And even if it was, TALK TO A TYPICAL AMERICAN--seriously, as I said before, they DON'T CARE about South America. They don't think about South America. They eat, sleep, and breathe locally and nothing more. They don't hate you; they just don't give a rat's arse.

And speaking of the warped media in other countries--the Cuban media, for example, makes it seem that the U.S. is always out to get them, even when the U.S. government has left them alone for the past forty or so years and nobody here, except people in South Florida, cares about Cuba. So I suggest that you take whatever the media in your country says with a grain of salt, as it should be with any country's media.

Citat:
and i don't give a fuck if you like us or not...

Um. Okay. Congratulations. You say that English is new to you, so I suppose that probably is one of the first words one learns in a foreign tongue. It's actually quite a rude and unnecessary word in this context, but at least now I have no reason to hold back from being equally rude myself.

Citat:
i'm just saying that we don't keep saying "oh, let's explode that country they're evil"

You know why you don't keep saying that? Because the U.S. is the one with the most money and the best bombs, not you. The U.S. can take anyone on--that you can't deny. The only reason they don't always attack, even when they should, is because of fear and cowardice. (The U.S. has been pressured over the years into turning into a bunch of pansies that let the bullies of the world roam free.)

And what's bad about exploding a country if it's evil? Or is it just the fact that if one says "evil" one is daring to pronounce judgement that bothers you? Any country that is evil should be exploded if it's a threat to other non-evil nations. If it's not a threat to other nations, but the government unreasonabley oppresses its citizens, a free country may invade and liberate the citizens if that said free country has the means.

Jojoboo skrev:
Hmm, that's a thoughtful comment. It depends, doesn't it? If the government uses it's citizens as shields to save their own sorry skin, that should be dealt with in an approporiate way. I admit that I don't know HOW you would deal with that, but it's definitely not by coming with racist jokes on a forum.

If the citizens are the culprits, here, then they're not really innocents anymore, are they? Face the ones that are hostile and protect the ones that are not, I say. I know this argument is full of holes, but okay, I'm an idealistic, politically correct bitch.

You're not a bitch. Nobody wants to see innocent people die (except the dictators of those countries that were mentioned, I suppose). I share your sentiment; I don't want blameless people to have to die, either. But my concern is this: we're trying to preserve them at what cost? The cost of our own lives if we let the opposing country ruin us because of our hesitation? If we did that, it would be defeating the purpose. In the end, the "bad guys" would win anyway.

If you really do think there is a way to save the citizens and still smash the oppressive governments of those countries, but you don't know how, it's important that we find out how pretty quick.
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Skrivet den 2006-08-05 19:03:58
ACCOUNTCLOSED
Dance with me Ninanajna
Sing with me Ninanajna
I wanna be with you
I wanna give it to you

lovely lyrics...
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Skrivet den 2006-08-05 19:17:31
Jojoboo
Cygnus skrev:
Jojoboo skrev:
Wouldn't it be great if everyone were indifferent to everything?

Eh, not really. If that were so, we'd never get anything done. Like inventing stuff, and falling in love, and predicting the weather, etc....Unless you mean indifferent only to bad things; then it's just suicidal. Unless you mean that people just shouldn't care to do bad things; then, yeah, I guess that'd be pretty good.


I was being sarcastic, though.

Cygnus skrev:
Jojoboo skrev:
Hmm, that's a thoughtful comment. It depends, doesn't it? If the government uses it's citizens as shields to save their own sorry skin, that should be dealt with in an approporiate way. I admit that I don't know HOW you would deal with that, but it's definitely not by coming with racist jokes on a forum.

If the citizens are the culprits, here, then they're not really innocents anymore, are they? Face the ones that are hostile and protect the ones that are not, I say. I know this argument is full of holes, but okay, I'm an idealistic, politically correct bitch.


You're not a bitch. Nobody wants to see innocent people die (except the dictators of those countries that were mentioned, I suppose). I share your sentiment; I don't want blameless people to have to die, either. But my concern is this: we're trying to preserve them at what cost? The cost of our own lives if we let the opposing country ruin us because of our hesitation? If we did that, it would be defeating the purpose. In the end, the "bad guys" would win anyway.

If you really do think there is a way to save the citizens and still smash the oppressive governments of those countries, but you don't know how, it's important that we find out how pretty quick.


I'd rather die knowing that I did what was for the best for the majority of the people, than live knowing I've done something horrible.

On the other hand, if everyone was like me, everyone would die, so yeah, maybe that wouldn't be so successful.
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